175: Personal Style, Work Clothes & Identity: a Gen X'er Judging a Millennial

Roula (00:00)
Rosie, uh-huh, we have, have another one for you. And this one.

Rosie (00:01)
Mm.

Yeah, I'm feeling a bit tired

after these big questions. All right, I gotta psych myself up.

Roula (00:11)
They're fun questions. There are wires sticking from the bucket above your thing.

Rosie (00:18)
Oh fuck yeah I

know, you're telling me it's not very aesthetic is it? Oh fuck yeah, I will, you know what I'm gonna do? I'm gonna do that. Better?

Roula (00:22)
No.

yeah, better. Much better. Much better.

Rosie (00:31)
I will, much better, I will fix up

my background

Roula (00:36)
Another question. So

what are you going to do with your hair? Are you letting it grow?

Rosie (00:53)
Yeah, I've been thinking about this. I want to let it grow. I want to be able to put product in it and like, you know, make a style. Yes. Yes. But I don't know how long I want it. And it's just awkward growing it out. Like I don't want it super long. It's still probably going to be length of like a typical men's cut. But yeah, I want to. An elf? How? Are my ears looking pointy?

Roula (01:00)
Stylate. ⁓ cool.

You look like an elf.

Yeah, here. Not

there. Here. Like you know the elf, they usually they have the hair and then the ears like this.

It's cute.

Rosie (01:30)
elf, whatever, it is very fuzzy and I'm

it just feels nice, especially with short hair. When I had longer hair I always had it in a ponytail, I didn't give a shit. But with short hair it's always on display.

Roula (01:44)
It needs more work, short hair. And Rosie, do you have ⁓ like work clothes?

Rosie (01:47)
Mm.

Ha

You judgemental fucking Gen Xer. I think, I know you had a question for me, but this is now the episode. Because, ⁓ my goodness, my... Well, no, that's not the topic, but talking about clothes. Because, isn't it funny? I said I'm going to work, and your first question that came out is, but do you have work clothes? Is that what you said? I think that's how you said it.

Roula (02:05)
That I'm a judgmental gen Xer?

Okay.

Yeah.

Rosie (02:24)
Isn't it interesting? So my great aunt, she must be a baby boomer. When she found out I was going to go back to relief teaching, she went, well, you're going to have to get new clothes. Her first, her very first comment.

God, I am not going to wear the clothes I wear when I'm working on the van covered in paint and oil and holes and whatever. Yes, I am getting different clothes and I have put in an online order and you in rosy style, not what everybody might, but no, well neither do I to be honest.

Roula (03:00)
Yeah, but I don't know what Rosie's style is.

Rosie (03:05)
But why is that your first fucking question not, oh my god, how are you feeling about going back to teaching? That's great, you're gonna get some money, da da da. No, it's the clothes. So, mm, yeah, do you feel guilty? Do you feel bad? Oh.

Roula (03:19)
shut up with this question. No, I just want to give you an answer

where you won't question me like you always do. OK, OK. So why my question was not about are you excited to go back to work, et cetera? We already recorded something when we were on TikTok live. And also, I know a little bit.

Rosie (03:30)
Would. Yeah.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Whatever. Whatever.

Roula (03:47)
like how you feel about going back to work and why you're going back to work. So I have an answer. Yeah, yes. And now for me is OK, we did the emotional situation, we did the financial situation, et cetera. I'm still missing the aesthetic part.

Rosie (03:51)
Okay, we have spoken about it off air. That's true.

feel like I've made you very defensive here. Yeah, I mean, it is a relevant question. A little bit, a little bit, but you do, you, no, you did, you did, you did, but you felt you had to put a case forward, didn't you? I made you feel like I need to justify it. But you're right, we have had these conversations off air and you do very much care. It's not all about the clothes.

Roula (04:08)
Do I sound defensive? Do I sound defensive? so I didn't choose the right words and how I said it.

Yeah.

Rosie (04:29)
But it has also been something that's going around in my mind. Like, what am I going to fucking wear? So what I used to wear as a teacher is I'd have like Chino shorts. I don't know if you call them that over there. So still shorts. Yeah. Right. So those, I'd wear those. And typically I would wear a polo shirt.

Roula (04:43)
I love Chino shorts! Yeah, I love it!

Rosie (04:50)
and then I just have different colors.

Roula (04:50)
I love that!

Rosie (04:51)
Right! And then I'd have like a really cool lanyard with my keys on it that would hang out of my pocket and I'd wear really cool sneakers. thank you! Yeah!

Roula (04:56)
⁓ that's so sexy. OK, so

let me let me go back to your question. Why I ask about the clothes. OK, just you know, we're so different that you don't give a shit about you, what you wear. You're fine with it. And I don't want to apologize or feel bad that I care about what I wear and I care about how my husband dress and.

Rosie (05:05)
Okay, yes.

Yeah.

Mmm. Mmm. Good point.

Roula (05:23)
We both

Rosie (05:23)
Mmm.

Roula (05:23)
like to dress nicely and we feel excited and it turns us on. If I look at people nicely dressed, it just makes me feel so happy because I love that and I don't want to apologize for it. You know, it's something I had all my life and I think I have it from my parents. My dad never left home without looking like he used to call me to choose stuff for him.

Rosie (05:25)
Mm.

Yeah. Yeah.

Mmm.

Roula (05:51)
And he would try in front of the mirror. What do I do? I do this. I think I was raised in a place where dressing up was important and we weren't rich at all. we we were some days we were really poor and some days we weren't. It depends on how much my father was playing poker or how much we spent money. I also grew up in the war, so sometimes there was no money at all. So anyway, bottom line is that

Rosie (05:53)
Wow.

Hmm.

Mmm.

Mm-mm.

Yeah, there's a lot, yes.

Roula (06:22)
My eyes when they look at someone like now you described you're gonna wear a polo, chin or short, your key will be hanging with cool sneakers and I'm like, I love that. I want to be a student looking at you like this, okay, not in a pervert way. Unless I'm a 50 years old student.

Rosie (06:26)
Mmm.

Yes! No, no, no, no. So, yeah. So I

always sort of revert to feeling pressure to dress, you know, a certain way. Often female teachers wear a dress or a skirt. And I have done that in the past, but I've decided that's not really me. It doesn't mean I never wear that staff, but it's not really me.

So I've got some, you know, I've bought some cool Chino shorts and then I ordered a pair of, because I don't have sneakers at the moment, I ordered a pair of really cool sneakers. I'm a bit nervous because I like to try shoes on in person, but there's nowhere here to buy shoes. So I a pair of cool sneakers. ⁓

The t-shirt situation, I think I'm gonna need to suss out. I need to figure out what I wanna wear. It's very hot up here, very sweaty, so I need something that's cool, isn't gonna show too many sweat patches. Linen, yes, linen's good. Linen, it's gotta be, right? Exactly, there's so much polyester. And it's soft, but it doesn't breathe. ⁓

Roula (07:27)
Linen, good fabric but yeah it must be good fabric. No no synthetic stuff in it.

Yeah. True.

Rosie (07:42)
So anyway, I'm still figuring that out, but I'm getting there. I've got some appropriate tops that don't have holes and aren't like five sizes too big and all that jazz.

Roula (07:53)
Wait, I can't wait to see you dressed in your work outfit.

Rosie (07:56)
I'll have to send you some photos and

a video. Yes. And I bought a teacher badge. ⁓ so that's coming in the post. Actually, you know what I need? I need a teacher hat. you don't have to, but I like having one. I used to have one that had a little penguin on it and it said Miss Burrows. I have it in storage, but that's thousands of kilometers away. So I've got a badge. It's not as cool, but it says Miss Burrows and it has some books on the side and.

Roula (08:06)
Because you have to wear a teacher badge?

That's so cool!

Rosie (08:26)
You know, I'm actually excited about this. ⁓ thank you.

Roula (08:29)
so nice. I'm excited for you too. It's really cool. You know,

yes. Well, I'm also looking forward to one day go back working outside of the house and dressing up and whatever because, yeah, seeing other people, even if they were students, I don't want to work with children. But anyway, that's not gonna what I'm gonna do. What's not the topic? Where was I? Yes. Okay.

Rosie (08:43)
Mmm.

I don't know.

Roula (08:59)
All right, all right. We did not come to record this episode to talk about this topic, but I'm so glad we did.

Rosie (09:06)
Yes, and actually I'm glad your second answer to why you asked with that question I think was perfect. It wasn't trying to come up with all these, like a court case of, well this is why. You just said, well actually it's really important to me and I shouldn't have to apologize for that. And in my head I went, actually yeah.

hypocrite Rosie I'm always saying stand up for what you believe in and then I understood okay it's important to you and and that's cool we're on different pages for that but we like we did an episode about clothes I'm sure we did it is an area of insecurity for me and actually I'm calling you out you said you were gonna send through ⁓ you're gonna do like a vision board or something something with like outfit you know cool androgynous

Roula (09:32)
Yeah.

⁓ yeah!

But you don't need it. You

don't need it. You describe what you're wearing and I love it.

Rosie (10:01)
Yeah, but I, you're really like, but you're really good,

you're really good at that stuff. So it'd be cool. You should send me some pictures and I'll be like, yeah, I wanna do that. Have some fun with it. What? Mm. I love that. They're so doggie and cute. They're the best. ⁓ Yeah.

Roula (10:11)
Yeah, okay, okay, I will. ⁓ You know what I'm into these days and I bought like three of them? Bucketheads.

Yeah, I love them. Yes, because it's autumn and sometimes it rains.

So I got these three bucket hats. And I feel like when I go outside my bucket hat, my married lipstick, this is my autumn signature now.

Rosie (10:32)
You need to send me photos. You're

so cool. You really express your personality through what you wear and I love that so much. I love it.

Roula (10:44)
By the way, this, I bought this for my son. I now I...

Rosie (10:48)
You have to

explain to the listener's ruler who are only listening and not watching. What are you talking about?

Roula (10:50)
Yeah.

Okay, I'm wearing a necklace, like golden rust necklace, a bit big. And it's not mine, it's for my son. So I thought, ⁓ this suits my outfit. And well, I borrowed it and this bring us to end this episode and go back and go record a next one about borrowing versus lending. I really want to talk about this.

Rosie (10:57)
Yeah.

So you just stole it.

without permission.

Okay, see you the next one everybody.

Roula (11:22)
See you in the next one and let us know what your style is.

Rosie (11:22)
Let us know your thoughts. ⁓

Roula (11:25)
Send us a message. Bye.