50 Episodes Today!

Roula (00:00.13)

You're making noise or am I? No, you're making noise. You know, I put on my desk now some kind of stuff that when I put the plate or the wire so it doesn't go making the noise. I used to have this in the old house. Yeah, yeah. Yes, showered. you're so blurry. I know you blurry will not appear, but.

Rosie (00:03.858)

the back row.

Rosie (00:13.242)

yeah, Was it this?

That sounds, yeah.

Rosie (00:25.204)

Hmm?

Roula (00:29.728)

I want to look at you.

Rosie (00:31.324)

You don't want to look at a potato.

Roula (00:33.87)

Who's potato? You're not a potato.

Rosie (00:35.984)

Me, the blurry potato.

Roula (00:42.242)

Alright, now I'm warm. So I have my cup of tea, special cup of tea. I'm gonna fill it. No, I put them in my thermos can so they stay warm. Usually I would use the teapot.

Rosie (00:51.892)

Aww, cute!

Rosie (00:56.136)

Have you got a teapot there?

Roula (01:10.306)

Was you, yes, telling me already. I put my tea in this can.

Rosie (01:14.356)

Look at this. Rouls is pouring some hot tea from her thermos into her beautiful teacup. It's not hot!

Roula (01:22.318)

it's not hot no I'm having like colder tea just room temperature

Rosie (01:26.842)

Ice tea. yuck. You like cold? You like it room temperature? Okay. Well, I'm having some chocolate milk and I don't have a fancy teacup. So yeah. And I drank half of it because I couldn't help myself. Yeah.

Roula (01:32.246)

Yeah, yes.

Roula (01:45.166)

You couldn't wait.

Rosie, here we go. I know that today we're celebrating, you know that today we are celebrating our milestone of 50 episodes. Cheers! I'm 51.

Rosie (01:50.228)

Cheers!

Rosie (01:56.903)

He he.

Rosie (02:03.393)

That's the same age as you.

okay. Well, okay. Yeah.

Roula (02:10.204)

shall we repeat? you fucking ruined it

Rosie (02:13.021)

Shut up, go again, hurry up.

Roula (02:14.67)

Today you are celebrating our 50th episode. How exciting! 50 days have passed.

Rosie (02:20.273)

Woohoo! It is exciting.

I didn't think we'd make it this far.

Roula (02:27.852)

I was sure we're making it this far, what are you talking about? We didn't start to quit!

Rosie (02:29.203)

you

Rosie (02:33.01)

No, I'm... This is true. And you know what? I'm so proud of how far we have come. This started from a random conversation last year. In fact, I'm not even sure how it started. And here we are, we're releasing daily episodes and we're still loving it. And this is episode 50. And in fact, we've recorded more than 50 episodes.

Roula (02:58.03)

true. We're recording this exceptionally on its own because it's the 50th one but we have in the bank almost 70 episodes. Yes.

Rosie (02:59.571)

We're still going strong.

Rosie (03:10.791)

Yeah. Yeah. That's crazy.

Roula (03:14.976)

It's all, you know, on the Life Affairs podcast, I wanted to do this.

But alone as a solo podcaster, I cannot ramble and go talking about this stuff. I can, I can. I just didn't know how to get the best out of me in the most authentic way. So I look for guests to help me bring this up and have more calm, professional, rational, and nice conversations. And I kept feeling I love what I'm doing on the Life Affairs Podcast.

Rosie (03:34.663)

Mm-hmm.

Roula (03:51.726)

But it's not yet what I want my podcast to be.

And since we started our podcast, it's not only this is the podcast that I want. It's given me so much, new ways in tackling my own podcast. So it becomes more fun for myself.

Rosie (04:12.082)

I mean, you just wanted an excuse to talk about the Life Affairs podcast, didn't you? You're just trying to plug your podcast. I mean, I do too. I do too, but.

Roula (04:21.302)

I love the Life Affairs podcast. I love it. I love it. I have a great guest and I love the stories on there. But this, Rosie and Roula show is where I want to be every day.

Rosie (04:34.802)

Mm. I totally agree. I don't think I've found the solution for the Pursuit of Freedom podcast. I'm still finding my way there. But what the Rosie and Rula show has taught me is that podcasting can be fun again, because my podcast was starting to feel like a drag. Our podcast, it is just so much fun. Yeah, there's stress.

But the biggest feeling is just, fun. And when we don't meet, we miss each other.

Roula (05:09.915)

So much, so much.

Rosie (05:10.802)

You'd think we'd be sick of each other by this point.

Roula (05:15.742)

No, it's like when we don't meet, I feel there's a piece of me missing because this is the moment where I'm 100 % myself. Not only myself, this is the moment where I'm letting myself outside for the world to hear what I have to say and not being scared of being judged because

Rosie (05:26.724)

Mmm.

Rosie (05:37.925)

Yeah.

Rosie (05:42.459)

Mmm.

Roula (05:44.14)

This is one side of the story that's my story, my opinion, and out there there are so many other stories. And all stories must be heard. There is no right or wrong.

Rosie (05:55.794)

Mmm. You know, I don't think I could have done a podcast like this without you. It has to be the Rosie and Rula show. It can't be the Rosie show. It just wouldn't be the same.

Roula (06:07.404)

The Roro Show.

Roula (06:11.926)

Roro show. Yes, it's been... When we talk about podcasts, when we talk about our own podcasts, the Life Affairs podcast and the Pursuit of Freedom, it's not that it's boring. I think listeners don't know how much work goes into a podcast, especially when the episodes are very long. But these ones are short, are punchy, straight to the point.

Rosie (06:29.849)

Right, right.

Roula (06:38.828)

And I think we're becoming better at being podcasters. What do you think?

Rosie (06:42.437)

Yeah.

I think so, but I don't want to think about it too much because maybe we're not.

Roula (06:52.45)

I need to get you out of your imposter syndrome.

Rosie (06:56.452)

You need to what? It broke up then.

Roula (06:59.158)

I need to get you out of your imposter syndrome.

Rosie (07:02.805)

wow, how have we not had an episode on that? Mmm, imposter syndrome, yes.

Roula (07:04.598)

We are good podcasters. We haven't. Rosie, we are good podcasters.

Rosie (07:16.815)

No, no, no, no, no. We are amazing podcasters. How's that?

Roula (07:21.386)

Right? We're doing it from the heart.

What's driving you?

Rosie (07:29.265)

I don't know how to answer that. I don't know. It just feels good. It feels good. It's fun. It's creative.

Roula (07:35.864)

Take your time.

Rosie (07:45.489)

Does it need to be more than that? I feel like that might be it. I get to hang out with a friend every week. We get to laugh, be silly. We hear from listeners and it's an opportunity for me to feel proud of myself. We're putting all these beautiful episodes out there.

Roula (08:06.666)

Yes, we... You know the thing is that... I don't want to say too many we. The thing is, every episode is a reflection on what I truly think, taking your opinion and thinking, you know, there is another opinion and it's so beautiful. It's very therapeutic.

Rosie (08:33.562)

Yeah, this is true. It is therapeutic. And I want us to talk about this. Like, do you have some lessons learnt out of all these episodes we've done so far? Like, what are some standouts for you? There's gotta be something.

Roula (08:55.598)

The episode on etiquette, I feel every day I am faced with a situation where I wish I talked about it on the episode.

Rosie (08:59.053)

Yes.

Rosie (09:08.111)

Really?

Roula (09:09.71)

It's like a never ending daily things happening that make me think, I wish I talked about this. Which means I want to make another episode about etiquette because it doesn't end and other episode. You know, I want to talk about things that are taboo and we talk about this stuff. On our on the Rosy and Rula.

Rosie (09:22.561)

We need another etiquette episode.

Roula (09:39.586)

This is why the taboo episodes are really like them, especially the ones where we look at how genders think differently. I like the ones about sex. And I don't have a favorite because every time I listen back to the episodes, I laugh so much.

Rosie (09:52.025)

Mm.

Rosie (10:03.149)

Yes! Yes!

Roula (10:06.062)

And sometimes I think, what the fuck am I talking about? What am I saying these things? But the good thing is I don't regret them. That's me, that's me.

Rosie (10:10.117)

Peace!

Rosie (10:17.805)

Yeah, exactly. We're showing up as ourselves and ourselves in that moment as well. I don't want anyone listening to hold me to anything I have said. I'd like to think that what I'm saying is how I feel across time, but maybe it's not. We're sharing how we feel in the moment. And you throw some big questions at me that I have never considered. And it's just, I just voice as I'm processing the question. So.

Roula (10:29.442)

Beautiful.

Rosie (10:46.775)

As he said, it's therapeutic and I might go away and think about it. And like you, I'll start going, I wish I spoke about this. I wish I said that. So there's going to be some pretty meaty episodes that follow up some of the ones we've done already, I think.

Roula (11:01.4)

True. What you said is so, so beautiful, Rosie. I'm praising you for it because indeed, after we have the conversation and we said our opinion on the podcast, then I have people around listening and talking to me face to face or sending me message or, and they make me reflect on the things I said. They don't hold them against me. They don't tell me all what you're saying is no, they tell me what they think.

Rosie (11:12.302)

Mm.

Rosie (11:23.47)

Mmm.

Roula (11:31.116)

or they approve, they disagree, and it's fine. And that helps me also, and I think the same for you, to recalibrate, reconsider, rethink. Why not?

Rosie (11:41.08)

Yeah, totally. And this actually happened to me recently. Someone messaged me saying,

They said they didn't like the episode. It was something I said. It was in the divorce episode. And they said, yeah. They're talking about what I said, not you. They said, Rosie, what you were saying was true, but it was just really short-sighted. And I was a bit offended, like, huh? But then I thought, no, hang on a minute, let's hear their opinion. And it was a really interesting conversation. And I thought, yeah, okay, you're right.

because sometimes we get so caught up in the moment in these episodes and you and I love a bit of banter. So there's this natural tendency to be sometimes extreme in what we're saying and embellish things. Not that it's untrue, but I get really caught up in, you know, putting my opinion forward. And sometimes it comes across as very black and white, but it really isn't.

Roula (12:29.454)

show.

Roula (12:40.622)

Yes, because the moment we ask the question and we answer, it's the first thing that comes to our mind. And they're not all balanced and thought of and polished. No, the further we go into the episode, we start adjusting and thinking, all right, I mean, we.

Rosie (12:56.664)

and not scripted, that's for sure.

Roula (13:07.532)

have to say it differently because what we just said is outrageous. We don't really want to say it this way. Something about the divorce episode touched me also very much. Someone that I'm not in contact with, a very close person to me, I'm not in contact with, it's just because we live in different countries, we have a family bond, but we don't know each other that well.

Rosie (13:19.724)

Yeah.

Rosie (13:35.949)

Mm.

Roula (13:36.928)

And that person sent me a private message asking me where can I listen to the divorce episode.

And that touched me because who knows what this person is going through from all the episodes and the fact that we never talk. She had the courage and the curiosity and the willingness to send me a private message asking me where can I listen to this episode?

Rosie (13:48.459)

Mmm.

Rosie (13:58.925)

Mmm.

Rosie (14:09.934)

And isn't that beautiful? Because often our episodes are lighthearted and fun and we tease each other. But they're important. You and I would not be here talking about things that didn't matter. They matter.

Roula (14:26.688)

matter and it's life. Every topic is from life, from going to the toilet to washing your hands to going to work talking to people. We're living!

Rosie (14:27.477)

Mmm, it is life. Yeah.

Rosie (14:38.11)

Mm. Mm. We are living. There's so much to it. And I, okay, I just, I, I, this is the first time I have prepared a little bit for an episode and I just have to share. I was going, what are some things I've learned from our episodes, right? And these are some that jumped out at me. Yeah.

I think this was one of the episodes that shocked me about Botox. Cause I've always seen it as, oh my God, like it's just a vanity thing. But then you really opened my eyes and I went, oh, that's been a bit of a judgemental bitch actually. And to get insight from you was really cool. But then we've had episodes where I didn't learn a fucking thing. So if you go back, how to get out of a bad conversation,

We didn't even answer that question. I still don't know how to get out of a bad conversation and I still find myself in bad conversations all the fricking time.

Roula (15:39.232)

hilarious hilarious because when when i get into the episode getting out of bad conversations i was convinced i have an answer but i didn't

Rosie (15:47.02)

You didn't!

Roula (15:53.228)

I do want to say that the fact that you get yourself into bad conversations, this is the moment where you need to start learning and tell us what you learned, how are you getting out of them. It's on you now.

Rosie (16:09.101)

It's on me. I have to come up with it. But this is not fair. All right. All right. I'll think on that. Yeah, this is not fair. You were just trying to pass on the responsibility to me and you know why? Because you don't have the answer.

Roula (16:10.623)

Yeah!

Roula (16:17.408)

I like it when you resist suggestions.

Roula (16:28.202)

Give me the answers, Rosie. And yes, I don't have the... You're not offending me. I don't have the answers. And you're getting yourself in trouble. So tell me what, what, you're getting out of it.

Rosie (16:30.316)

They- Oh good. This is true.

Rosie (16:41.184)

We'll come back to this. This is another future episode because I remember listening back to it going, was a great episode, but actually I don't think we got anywhere.

Roula (16:51.52)

yes also the stubbornness that episode i feel like yeah people are stubborn i am stubborn you are stubborn what what did we get out of it pay attention when you're stubborn i don't know

Rosie (17:02.827)

Well yeah, but I also remember saying in that episode that I want another word for it because there's so many negative connotations around the word stubborn. And you, my dear ruler, and I don't think you've done this, I've got my teacher face on, you said you were going to ask your kids if they had another word for stubborn. And I'm really curious. Yes.

Roula (17:30.542)

Rosie, sometimes my kids don't give a fuck about my questions. So if I don't come back, it's because they were like, Mom, please just go get on with your podcast. Leave me alone.

Rosie (17:39.455)

Who gives a

Rosie (17:44.977)

someone messaged me because the stubbornness episode came out not long before we were recording this one and someone saw our Instagram story, it might have been on my Facebook page and they sent me a message. Their alternative was single-minded and there was something else, something else and I thought, well, yeah, they're alternative words, but they've still got negative connotations. There's got to be a positive spin.

Roula (18:03.79)

that's tough.

Roula (18:15.21)

Yeah, I hope that it will come and we will not forget to write it down so on next episode, one of the episodes, we can come back to it.

Rosie (18:25.458)

Yes. Mmm. Yes.

Roula (18:27.328)

Rosy, so this has been a long episode celebrating our 50th episode which is this episode

Rosie (18:35.123)

This episode, yes, in case you didn't get that, this is our 50th episode. We're very excited. Actually, this is another thing I've got to share. We all deserve a good ROFL. Do you remember what that stands for, Rula? ROFL, ROFL.

Roula (18:46.666)

I know I was ruffling the other day. Roll on the floor laughing. Roll, ruffle. Yeah.

Rosie (18:52.382)

I'm so impressed you remember that. So yes, everybody go have a good raffle because it just makes you feel better. It really does.

Roula (19:02.334)

yes let's ruffle so i want to tell you let's ruffle suzy who the heck is suzy no i'll let you know all right okay okay let's see we're ruffling go and ruffle and shall we continue recording our 51st episode

Rosie (19:06.25)

Grrr!

Rosie (19:14.206)

You cheating on me!

Rosie (19:31.498)

We're gonna call it that I think I think we should have already got plenty of ideas after having this chat. I think before like we Scheduled to record this episode and we said yeah, let's get t-shirts with our logo on it. Yeah Let's put party decorations on and party hats. Yeah, let's do this and guess what? Neither of us fucking did it because we really disorganized But I'm relieved that you also

Roula (19:32.686)

You

Roula (19:54.806)

Nothing.

Roula (20:00.142)

No, no, not you. Talk about yourself. You're disorganized. I had so much to do. I have three kids. All right, all right. And they had have events. No, I'm kidding. Everybody have kids. I don't like to use this expression. I have three kids. I'm so busy. have work. Am I now being now you're going to judge me because I'm being judgmental.

Rosie (20:01.062)

You forgot to do it and Well why didn't you do it?

Disorganized. Yeah, disorganized. You couldn't organize your time. Yeah.

Ehh!

Rosie (20:19.497)

But you just did. What?

Thank you! Yeah, I don't think either of us did. And you know what? You fessed up first to me. You went, I forgot to do this. And then I'd message back going, yeah, me too. So at least you were brave enough.

Roula (20:26.646)

Okay, yeah, I was disorganized. I didn't give it priority. That's the thing. I didn't give it priority.

Roula (20:39.81)

But Rosie, we are preparing for our 100th episode. That's gonna be, we're gonna have the T-shirt.

Rosie (20:45.001)

yeah, that's going to be big everybody. There's going to be a giveaway. We will have the t-shirts. There will be merch. Okay. That's all I'm saying. It's very exciting. Yes!

Roula (20:54.528)

And hold us accountable people. You're listening. Hold us accountable because now we're telling you prepare for the 100th episode. We're going to have a very nice gift. Maybe with a little question, we want to have a winner for the giveaway. I don't know. I don't know. We didn't think about this. So don't hold me accountable for this.

Rosie (21:09.353)

Yes. Yes, stop. Yeah, no, no, no. We'll figure it out. There'll be some winner, but we don't know how. But let us know. Shut up. No, shush, I'm talking. And I totally forgot what I was going to say. no. What I was going to say. Rule is ducked out of frame. I see.

Roula (21:16.194)

Shall we wrap it up, Rosie?

Roula (21:21.164)

I hate when someone shush me but...

Roula (21:30.476)

You shrunk me. You... I disappeared.

Rosie (21:35.304)

Ruler's so silly. If you haven't already, go subscribe to our YouTube channel. We are also now on TikTok. We're on Instagram. Ruler is doing an amazing job of managing that. Don't for a second think that I have anything to do with it because you'd think that the younger person was all over Instagram. No, it's all Ruler. Yes, I'm a bit of an influencer over there. Anyway, I'm not going to go there. Send us your suggestions for episodes. We're so excited that this is our 50th one.

Roula (21:53.774)

And she's all over TikTok.

Rosie (22:05.629)

The 100th episode is going to be even better. We've a lot in store, so can't wait.

Roula (22:11.426)

Thank you so much for listening to this 50th episode where we only talked about ourselves and how much we love the podcast. See you soon. Bye.

Rosie (22:15.689)

Sorry, not sorry.