52: Sharing Voice Messages From Our Listeners

Rosie: [00:00:00] All right. Do you 

Roula: have a question? 

Rosie: Do I have a question? Oh, you know what would be fun to do? Ruler. Your son Liam, sent in a nice short little voice message, didn't he? He had, did you listen to it? 

Roula: Um, not, no, no, I didn't listen to it again. 

Rosie: Um, 'cause what was he saying? It was a good, I think it was talking about us passing judgment.

Roula: Oh my gosh. That was a good one. 

Rosie: Yeah. Let's find it. Hang on, let's find it. Here, here, here, here. Is this it? Is this your husband's one or the other one? Hang on. Oh, that was your husband's one. That was also a good one. Um, hang on. I wanna find Liam's. Yeah, yeah. Was it this one? Actually, I didn't listen to the voice message you sent in.

Roula: [00:01:00] Welcome to the Rosie Show. Marhaba. Good day. Hi. It's. Um, in regard to our episodes about, uh, having children, wanting to have children, I was listening to a podcast and this woman, within 36 hours after her husband died, they did, uh, posterous sperm retrieval so she can still have a baby from him after he died.

Roula: It's a controversial thing, I think in Australia. This happened in Australia. And, um, it just left me thinking these two persons with their love story, she couldn't get a baby. And when he died, there was someone, her best friend and other friends who were realistic enough. I. To talk to her about it within these 36 hours so that she can retrieve the sperm to still [00:02:00] have a baby from him.

Roula: After 15 months, her daughter was born and she looks exactly like the dad. Both families, her family and her deceased husband, family are EC because now they have grandchildren from their son. Isn't this beautiful? I don't know why. It's not ethical. This guy who passed away without children, have a girl walking on earth now.

Roula: It's just amazing.

Rosie: Well, thank you to our listener, ruler. Sounds a lot like the pod. My co-host ruler. This is very interesting. It's a beautiful story. And you know what? I don't wanna pass judgment or give an opinion on this because I don't know the situation. Um, but how beautiful. She got a beautiful baby daughter. I think that is beautiful.

Rosie: We could pick it apart and pull apart the ethical issues and the [00:03:00] pros and cons, but that's not our place. And I do vaguely remember this going through the media and this woman was hauled across the coals. It was horrible. It was really horrible. And. I just, 

Roula: oh, you heard of it? 

Rosie: Mm, 

Roula: you remember it. I feel like 

Rosie: there might have been a court case too.

Rosie: 'cause I feel like the sister wanted some of the sperm, but I don't re I don't remember. It could be a different case. 

Roula: Hmm. 

Rosie: But yeah. 

Roula: Bloody hair. I also don't want to judge anything. Yes. You know, I'm very agitated today. Um, the thing is, I wanted to leave this voice message because sometimes I forget, and I found this the best way to not forget these moments of, uh, reflection or information.

Roula: This is one second. I never heard of this. Well, none of that. I didn't know it's possible and I felt it's worth sharing. Mm-hmm. 

Rosie: Mm-hmm. 

Roula: I mean, if, if I am in this position, I [00:04:00] hope I will be like the, the person with enough courage to go to my friend and tell her, go now and extract this sperm. 'cause you still can have a baby.

Roula: You know it. That's, this is where I sit still. That's life changing. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Mm. So that the 

Rosie: friends, uh, yeah. 

Roula: Do you have another call? 

Rosie: I, I do. Let's listen to another one. Here we go. 

Liam: Yes. Hate at first sight. Is it justified? Oh, I know a good one. Um, this is just an example. Um, I saw his mohawk. Now it's hate at first sight.

Liam: He looks like a bully. 

Rosie: This is interesting. 

Liam: This is 

Rosie: a child leaving the message. Well, yes, I could tell that's my son, but it's so, yeah. Well, sounds like your son anyway. How interesting. This is so insightful of Liam because he's given an example. [00:05:00] He sees someone with a Mohawk and immediately thinks it's a bully, and there's hate at first sight.

Rosie: I've listened to this message and I went, huh? Yeah, actually I've probably had similar thoughts before, especially like when I was a student at school. You see someone who looks a certain way and you go, oh, I don't wanna go near them. 

Roula: Yeah. I mean, that's so true. Liam gave us a pure, honest example of how kids feel safe in the presence of others.

Rosie: Mm. Right. And this 

Roula: is how we grown up. Also do it because two days ago we took all the kids to the playground and a lot of parents. But there was this one father who was still, he is wearing his like, hell's Angels jacket. 

Rosie: Oh my God. 

Roula: And he didn't take it off in the, uh, playground. And it's closed break playground because it's cold outside.

Roula: So we, it's inside. I. And I thought of also of our episode, hate of First [00:06:00] Sight because the fact that he didn't take off this threatening jacket of Hell's Angels person Yeah. Made me already don't even want to sit next to him. Right. Right. 'cause I, I hear bad stories about Hell's Angels and having him there.

Roula: I dunno if it was Hells Angels or different, different name on the 

Rosie: jacket. 

Roula: The bike jacket. Yeah. Biker, biker jacket with, and the way he was walking, he walked looking. Angry. Mm-hmm. Not friendly. And I thought of what Liam said, I'm a no grown up person. Mm. I've, and I feel threatened by how this person look Now.

Roula: Am I gonna like him later after we have a conversation? I don't know, because I might not even give it a chance to have a conversation. 

Rosie: So maybe in a way, this hate at first sight thing is about our bodies trying to keep us safe, 

Roula: maybe. True. True. Yeah. I, it goes in a different direction now because when you get into the elevator and [00:07:00] someone is there that you don't feel comfortable in their presence, what do you do?

Roula: You'd rather take the next one. Yeah. You don't want to be in this closed space for that person. And this is hate from first sight in a way. This is, 

Rosie: well, yeah. Yeah. You're not, 

Roula: hate is a big word, but it's, it's easy to just say it. Yeah. Um. So, yeah, our body is protecting us. Our gut is telling us something.

Roula: So, uh, Liam understood the point. Really, really very good. Yeah. It's 

Rosie: such a succinct message now. This one final voice message. I wanna play this one again. Sounds like somebody I know, it's fascinating. Let's play this one. 

Rianto: You shouldn't put your elbows on the table while eating, not on a dinner table. Only just recently, I think just last year I found out the actual reason why.

Rianto: Why can't you have your, I thought it was neat Ns, you took up too much space. But do you know why you don't put your elbows on the table? 

Rosie: Why? [00:08:00] 

Rianto: So in the old days when the knights had Concord, a new city or castle or whatever. They would feast the evening or whatever, I don't know if it's the evening or midweek or something, and they make makeshift stables.

Rianto: And these stables are made of just like doors or wood and these not poles, but stands. And if one, uh, night on one end would press his elbows down, then the whole table would fell down and then you would ruin the whole meal from everybody. So that's why you don't put your elbows because you could just.

Rianto: Not break the table, but flip it over, especially with also with our round table. 

Rosie: Is this true? I love it. Someone needs to fact check this. Yeah. I love it too. So this is the whole truth behind not putting the elbows on the [00:09:00] table. So there was though, I'm still gonna put my elbows on the table because my table is not made from narrow, stable doors.

Rosie: Just saying it's fascinating to learn 

Roula: the history though. 

Rosie: Fascinating. I love it. Our 

Roula: shallow episodes got a deep 

Rosie: historical call. Yeah. Amazing. Yeah, I love it. And he sounded like your husband. This is just uncanny, I dunno why my, my, I have lot of support 

Roula: from my family. 

Rosie: I love it 

Roula: Truly. They're enjoying listening to the podcast because it, it makes him really smile.

Roula: Mm. When my son doesn't listen to all the episode, but sometimes he sees me editing. Mm-hmm. And then this is how he saw love at f uh, hate at first sight. Um, and he immediately noticed, but he also, my son who's 10 years old, likes very much that I'm doing a podcast and interested in the content. 

Rosie: Mm. 

Roula: This is 

Rosie: the thing.

Rosie: This is, I love that so much, but please, we don't want every [00:10:00] voice message to be ruler's family. I love her family, but seriously, come on now. So let's get some more messages in. I might send one in because I haven't been featured on the podcast yet as a call in, so I might just have to do that better upstage rule.

Rosie: I would love to hear 

Roula: it. Okay. Thank you so much Rosie. Thanks for listening. Bye.

Rosie: If you got a kick out of our conversation today, can you pretty please hit the follow button and share it with another opinionated person? This is the easiest way for you to support the show. It also gives ruler and I the motivation to keep going. I have to stop 

Roula: you there. Stop telling people what to do.

Roula: If they like to follow the show and share it, it's totally up to them. Guys, please can you help us follow and share the show? Thank 

Rosie: you. So you next time.