19: Is it OK to Make Sounds While You Eat?

[00:00:00] Roula: I feel so committed and I don't want to let you down, to be honest. What do you mean? Yeah. No, I want to share this that so that you know that I don't want to let you down because, um, You kick my butt to do things and I'm like, I'll do it.

[00:00:21] Yeah, but then I take my time. That's that's my downfall. I do take my time. 

[00:00:28] I 

[00:00:28] don't I don't want to feel rushed. So then I don't rush myself and that's not good because I'm not intensively like working on my podcast. 

[00:00:37] Rosie: So maybe we're a good balance then for each other. Cause you're more, let's not rush. And I'm more, let's go.

[00:00:43] And then somewhere in the middle is probably where we need to be. Yeah. Yeah.

[00:00:49] Roula: Welcome to the Rosie and show Marhaba. Good day. 

[00:01:00] Rosie: I don't know if it's just me, so I might embarrass myself here. Roller. Making sounds when you eat. And I'm not talking about chewing with your mouth open, like, that pisses me off. No, I'm talking about when you sit down, it's a delicious meal and you have a mouthful and you go, Mmm, yum. And sometimes I'll do a little like dance, um, moving around like, Mmm, yum.

[00:01:28] So good. Is that just me? Is this just a weird Rosie thing? You're laughing at me, I feel it. 

[00:01:35] Roula: I think my kids are going to kill me every time I say something yummy. Really? Because I feel it. Yes! I feel it. I'm like, so, it's so good! Yes! And they're like, oh mom, just please, can you shut up? Why do you have 

[00:01:53] Rosie: to do this?

[00:01:54] It's not just me then. I love this. 

[00:01:58] Roula: yeah. 

[00:01:59] Yeah. Um, my daughters gets really, they get really annoyed by me when I'm enjoying and wait until they sit down and my husband and I were enjoying a meal or something.

[00:02:12] And we're both like having this intimate connection with our food. And they go crazy, crazy, they hate it. They leave, they go to their room, they don't want to eat anymore. 

[00:02:28] Rosie: Oh my god, wow. Oh, yeah, I, I'm definitely very expressive when I eat food and if I cook for somebody and they're eating silently, it's almost like I go, is something wrong?

[00:02:43] Like why are they eating so quietly? What is happening? Cause if I sit down for a meal and it smells good, I'll go, Oh, it smells amazing. And I'll cut a bit and I'll move it up to my mouth before I've even put it in my mouth. I go, Oh, yum. It was just this whole thing. It is very intimate.

[00:03:03] Roula: I love it. I don't mind it.

[00:03:05] On the contrary, it, it creates a connection with the people around you. Okay. My kids are, they're early twenties. So I understand that they don't like that and you know, they're. Conservative and I'm all over the place having dinner with friends and describing the emotions you're having while eating. It's so beautiful.

[00:03:28] We're connecting and then you open a conversation and the other day, two days ago. That was a good description. So I was with my friend in the city, and I met with another friend who I haven't seen for years because she doesn't live in the Netherlands. She happened to be here for Christmas, and we met. We had coffee, and we ordered one piece of cake with three spoons.

[00:03:53] We put it in the middle of the table. And each one of us was taking a bite, and we're like, oh, this is so good. It was so good. We just were like in a trance, 

[00:04:04] Rosie: three mature age ladies just going in the middle of a cafe or wherever you were. 

[00:04:09] Roula: That's so true because the cafe was full of students and millennials and Gen Z and we're the three of us in our fifties.

[00:04:20] Like having this threesome with a cake. But it fits. Food 

[00:04:25] Rosie: is very intimate

[00:04:31] and it's very emotive. And like, if you eat yucky food, you're going to know about it. But if you eat delicious food, share that. Food to me is for connecting with people and it's a very social thing. 

[00:04:45] Roula: Yes, it is. One thing about me that is not nice is that I cannot tolerate non tasty food. It's almost embarrassing to the other person who, probably my husband, if we're having dinner somewhere or someone offered us something.

[00:05:05] So you, you 

[00:05:05] Rosie: can't just have a polite face and pretend you like it. No, 

[00:05:09] Roula: no, that's the problem. I can enjoy so much when it's good and I can turn you off so much when it's bad. So I make sounds when it's good and I make sounds when it's bad. 

[00:05:20] Rosie: You should have been with me on Christmas day. I made risogolo, which is Greek rice pudding.

[00:05:28] Yeah. So it's Greek rice pudding. Cause my mom's Greek or was Greek. And I used to love eating it. Like as a kid, she would make it and I'd never made it 

[00:05:39] myself. 

[00:05:39] Rice pudding. Do you have rice pudding? We have rice pudding in Lebanon. We call it rice pudding. Right. Well, the Greek word for rice pudding is risotto.

[00:05:49] Yeah. And so I thought I'm going to make it, but I, I'd maybe made it once as a kid with mom. Like, I don't remember how to make it. So I found a recipe online and I made this huge batch, this huge pot full. Like I was so excited. Went to Christmas lunch with family who I've only just met this year. So You know, still trying to find my place.

[00:06:10] Anyway, I'm serving it up, giving people really generous serves. And then I sit down and have a spoonful and I nearly spat it out. It was so bad ruler. It was so bland and so disgust. Like it was just feral and nobody's saying anything. And I said, You don't have to eat that. That is disgusting. And some people just ate the whole bowl.

[00:06:33] And I'm like, why do that to yourself? I was trying to make them feel comfortable by saying you don't have to eat it. I'm not eating mine. I actually threw it in the bin and I don't like throwing food out. But also this 

[00:06:45] Roula: show that's Tastes differ. Well, true. What you like or dislike is not really what others feel the same.

[00:06:53] Maybe the fact that it's so bland, they liked it more because rice pudding, it's like vomit. I'm so glad it was bland. Ew! 

[00:07:03] Rosie: You don't like rice pudding? No. Offended. No, it's so yummy. You think that it was tasteless? Yeah, it was bad. I'm never, Oh my God, I was so embarrassed. And I like to think I'm a good cook.

[00:07:18] That aside, I, when we know the 

[00:07:21] Roula: risk and making something new at a new event, people it's already a big risk. Oh, 

[00:07:27] Rosie: in France, I got to tell another story. I've had a few, a few food mishaps. So I was an au pair for a few months with this French family and I said, Oh, cook your dinner. And they had some family coming over and one of them was a chef.

[00:07:41] I didn't know this till after the fact, by the way, but I thought, Oh, I'll make beef pho, which is actually no, I made chicken pho, which is a Vietnamese soup. So it has broth and, um, rice noodles and chicken. And when I cook, you cook. Dinner's served, eat. Well, no. In this French family, this household, which I think is fairly typical, you don't just put the food down and eat.

[00:08:07] You have the food there, and you talk, and you drink your wine, and da da da da da. So the chicken breast is sitting in this soup. It was ready to eat, and it's just sitting in this giant pot. Cooking, cooking, cooking, and we served it up. The rice noodles were overcooked. They were like mush, because it's just sitting in the hot water.

[00:08:31] The chicken was tough as anything, because it was overcooked. And nobody said anything! I'm like, this is disgusting! And there people are, going back for seconds. And I thought, you cannot be enjoying this. So they liked it? Well, I don't know. I don't know. Maybe. I think they were just being polite to the Australian girl who couldn't cook, apparently.

[00:08:52] Roula: They were grateful. You know, this is the thing with cooking is so particular. Oh my goodness. You had to, and you were saying you think of yourself as a good cook. Yeah, I'm not really selling it, am I? Please don't cook for me. 

[00:09:12] Rosie: Well, if, if I cook dinner for you, if I say we're eating at six o'clock, that is when we're eating.

[00:09:18] Okay. Do not mess around with my schedule. I will have the dinner down and you eat. And you better have 

[00:09:25] Roula: a good meal, because if I follow your rules and it's 

[00:09:29] Rosie: still not good, you 

[00:09:31] Roula: will hear it. Oh my 

[00:09:31] Rosie: God. I've set the bar now, haven't I? I said I'm a good cook and oh my God, what have I done? What have I done?

[00:09:39] Roula: Okay. We, we, we have, we have, did they make sounds when they were eating? I don't remember. Cause this, this is the topic of our episode. Yeah, I think 

[00:09:46] Rosie: that, I think that was, oh, that's right. That's right. Sounds. They were slurping, I think. Which is something that drives me bonkers. Dad used to do that. Yeah. I don't know.

[00:09:56] I have issue with it. Oh, that's. Yeah. 

[00:09:58] Roula: Well, this falls under the sounds of foods that are, might be annoying. 

[00:10:03] Rosie: Yeah. Like 

[00:10:03] Roula: smacking and smacking on your fingers. And we're not talking about this. We're talking about enjoying the food. Making these amazing sounds because of happiness. 

[00:10:16] Rosie: Oh, I do it all the time. I love it.

[00:10:18] And I think some people judge me for it because they go. Why are you doing that? That's not socially acceptable, but I'm never changing it. Food makes me so happy. 

[00:10:30] Roula: And the most beautiful birds. If you find a partner who's like you, it's amazing. The other day, my husband and I, we went to have dinner or lunch.

[00:10:38] And that was in Chinatown in Amsterdam. The restaurant had a small door. It looked like just a snack place, not to be the restaurant. So we entered and it looks beautiful. It's like Asian fusion. They call it. We, we didn't have high expectations. We just wanted to have something. The first sushi came. They were like, we were, it's amazing.

[00:11:04] It's amazing. And then we kept ordering more and we said, you know what? It's so good so far. Let's close it off with a bang. And we ordered the final meal, the final dish, because it was like small dishes. I swear, this was like an orgasmic experience. It was so good that the entire restaurant heard us enjoying and, and we're like whispering and like, uh, worshiping the meal.

[00:11:34] It was so good. That is a sign of a good meal. And we left hand in hand, still talking about how amazing it was. I 

[00:11:43] Rosie: love that so much. 

[00:11:45] Roula: Oh, yes. People, please enjoy your meal and make it heard. 

[00:11:53] Rosie: Yeah. I think I got it from my dad. He'd always do that. I've got so many other stories coming into my head, but that, that is just going to turn this episode into an essay, which is boring.

[00:12:04] These episodes are a quickie ruler. You need to stop me rambling. What are you doing? Enjoy your meal like you guys in your Asian fusion restaurant. Except it doesn't sound like it was a quickie really. 

[00:12:17] Roula: It was a quickie because we had to hurry and go back and pick up our son. So we were very, very, very on sound like we're talking about something else.

[00:12:28] Rosie: Get out of here. 

[00:12:29] Roula: Go enjoy your food now. Let us know what you think of your food. 

[00:12:33] Rosie: That 

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