5: Washing Your Hair - Can You Be Bothered?

TO WASH OR NOT TO WASH

Roula: [00:00:00] Hello. 

rosie: Hello. It's good timing because we just had a crazy storm, but it's stopped now. 

Roula: Wow. Crazy storm. Summer storms. Yes. Or winter storms. Yeah. Summer. Yeah. Wet season storm.

Roula: Uh. All these names. Tell me, tell me, what's on your mind? 

rosie: Um, my mind is still waking up. I had a Nana nap and I was like, Oh, it's quarter past five. We're recording in 15 minutes. 

Roula: You had what? A Nana nap? Yeah. You call it Nana nap? Power nap? Yeah. No, this is late in the afternoon. Yeah. 

rosie: Yeah. Call it a Nana nap because making fun.

rosie: Cause often old people need a nap, but I always need a nap. [00:01:00]

Roula: To know naps have been all my life. An essential thing to get on with my day. Welcome to the Rosie Andrula show. Marhaba. G'day. I 

rosie: want to talk about washing your hair because. For some unknown reason, I just can't be bothered. I hate it. Even though it doesn't take long, my hair's not that long.

rosie: I just, it's a fucking drag. So nine times out of ten, I have really greasy hair and it looks terrible. But I just hate washing my hair. Do I like how it feels after I wash it? Yes. Do I enjoy washing it? No. So do I avoid washing it? Yes. You're frowning because I think you're looking at me going, I cannot relate to this at all.

Roula: I wash my hair every day, every morning. 

rosie: Oh [00:02:00] my God. Holy shit. Wow. This is the contrast we have. This is great. We are at opposite ends of the spectrum. Okay. Next, next thing. And this is kind of tied into it. I don't know where this thought came from, but for the past two or three days, I was like, Oh, what if I shave my head?

rosie: Get rid of all my hair. I don't mean just a short haircut. I mean shave it all off. One, it's great because it just goes against every frickin unspoken rule ever, but I was like, I don't even appreciate my hair. I always have it tied up out of my face because it annoys me. Washing it is, I hate it, so it always looks shit.

rosie: Like, why do I even bother having hair on my head? My hair gets, my head gets hot in the summer because I got all this hair on there. Why not shave it? 

Roula: In April, the year 2000, I shaved my head completely. [00:03:00]

rosie: Okay. Story time. Tell me, tell me, tell me, tell me. How did this come about? 

Roula: I was fed up from washing my hair every day, styling it.

Roula: And when I had really nice curls back in Lebanon, when I moved to the Netherlands, my curls were gone. The weather, everything is like. So it looked like a broom, horrible. And my hair at 26 years of age was super important. I said to my ex, you know what? I want to shave my head. It was like, yeah, cool. Let's do that.

Roula: He shaved all my hair. I don't have a picture ever. I was so regretted. At that time, Sinéad O'Connor was very famous. He's famous, very famous, I don't know. He's bald. I'm bald, wearing long black jacket, black eyes makeup, walking down the street. in Amsterdam after living in Lebanon all my [00:04:00] life. This is such a contrast, really.

Roula: Yeah. You revel. And it's felt amazing. The best thing I've done with my hair is shaven it completely. 

rosie: Oh, so you didn't regret it or you did? Because you just said you regret it. Never regret it. You don't. Never. I regret 

Roula: I don't have pictures. 

rosie: Ah, okay. I misunderstood. Yeah. I wish you had pictures. You're such a badass.

rosie: That is so cool. So that has been the thought going around in my head. I've even been watching YouTube videos about how people maintain like their short, short hair. Oops. I'm bumping the microphone. Yeah. This 

Roula: makes a lot of noise. Um, I'm sorry. You know, hair will grow back. Yeah. It's just, if this is something you want to do.

rosie: And 

Roula: try? Why not? 

rosie: Okay, I need your, I need your advice. This is another 

Roula: [00:05:00] unsolicited advice from me. It is! Gosh, you just love 

rosie: throwing advice out there. Don't listen to me guys. But actually, I want some advice, so the biggest thing stopping me doing it, because there's nothing stopping me going to the shop and just, I want to buzz it off myself.

rosie: I don't want to go to the hairdresser. Biggest thing holding me back is I'm worried about what other people will think. 

Roula: They will think you have cancer. What the fuck man? And I'm not, I don't mean it's bad. I'm not, it's awful. People will think. They think, why would, 

rosie: why would you want to shave your head off?

rosie: It's that dramatic. They think you're sick. It's true. But the other, other thing is I'm worried I'm going to get misgendered because when I had short hair, like. Really short pixie cut kind of thing. People would call me, sir, like that'd be coming from behind. Like I'd be at a restaurant or something and call me, sir.

rosie: And then they'd come around the table and they'd be like, Oh, I'm so sorry. And I'm like, for fuck's sake, like there is no need to say sir or ma'am or anything. Just being [00:06:00] called, sir would piss me off. And I know that would happen a lot with no hair. Plus I don't dress very feminine. I don't really care about my appearance.

rosie: I wear a t shirt and shorts, so I, I know I'm going to get misgendered. All the time if I shave my hair off. 

Roula: Look, what made a difference for me to shave my hair, excuse me, is that I have had short hair for very long period of my life. Shaved on the sides with like a, yeah. Really, um, very short hair. Mm-hmm

Roula: And I knew the shape of my head. I knew that I can have bald hair. Mm-hmm. Could be, you're so. No, no, really. I mean, if you don't have a nice shape of head. I mean, that's my other fear. What the hell does my 

rosie: head look like? I could look like this weird shiny egg. 

Roula: Maybe you need to start cutting your hair short and see if you like it [00:07:00] before you go and shave it all.

rosie: Yeah. I mean, I've had the short hair and I do like it. I do. So. But who? You never know exactly what your skull is going to look like until you shave it all off. 

Roula: You are pursuing freedom, right? Yes. Your podcast is the pursuit of freedom, correct? Yes. And you are taking people on your podcast also on the journey of you pursuing the freedom.

Roula: Mm-hmm . If shaving your hair is an experience, to have a taste of what freedom it means not to have your hair, to wash, to look after, et cetera, I think it's worth trying. But again, don't listen to my advice because I might be a totally different person than you. I can dive into things and other things.

Roula: And you're 

rosie: not here to give me support. You're in the Netherlands and I'm in Australia. Yeah, but if there's one person I talk to every day, it's you. 

Roula: Yeah. Despite the 

rosie: distance. How did that happen, right? So true. [00:08:00] What's our take for the listeners on this topic? Yeah. What was the question on this episode? Oh, washing hair.

rosie: Well, the take is I'm getting in my head about shaving my head and that's a little bit silly. And you're saying, Rosie, just do it. If that's part of your journey. No, I'm not saying just do it. I'm not 

Roula: saying just do it. I'm saying consider, consider the things you stand for. If you like the shape of your head, maybe first try to wash your hair with soap.

Roula: Okay. Bye. So, maybe it will change your mind. Fuck 

rosie: yeah. Oh, that's so funny. Hair washing. I've just got this thing. I don't know what it is. I like it when my hair you. 

Roula: Yeah. When you shower, water comes on your hair naturally. What do you do? Oh, you just shower your body. 

rosie: Yeah, yeah. I mean, if I was wetting my hair, yeah.

rosie: I'd wash it, but I don't. But you wash it with shampoo, [00:09:00] right? It's fine. When I wash it, yeah. Yeah, okay. 

Roula: Because sometimes my son has really nice thick hair, and he goes under the shower, he comes out and smells his hair, and he's like, did you use shampoo? I said, no, I didn't. I don't need to. No, I guess when you have hair, you need to use shampoo, because it will stink.

Roula: If you don't. The fat and the hot water. It's like a frying pan. Oh god. Oh god. 

rosie: So probably my head stinks. Yeah, right. Should I shave my head everybody? Yes or no? Let me know. 

Roula: That would be a nice challenge. If most of the people say yes, shave your hair, then you have to do it. Okay. 

rosie: I can, I can commit to that, but you know, nobody's responding to it.

rosie: Yeah, exactly. We just started. So true. Huh. Okay. I have nothing else to say. That's it. 

Roula: Thank you all for listening to this awkward episode. 

rosie: Bye. Fuck you. Bye. [00:10:00] Bye. Tilly's sleeping with her eyes open. It looks very creepy. If you got a kick out of our conversation today, can you pretty please hit the follow button and share it with another opinionated person.

rosie: This is the easiest way for you to support the show. It also gives Roula and I the motivation to keep going. I have 

Roula: to stop you there. Stop telling people what to do. If they like to follow the show and share it, it's totally up to them. Guys, please can you help us follow and share the show? Thank you so much.

Roula: See you next 

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