178: Silent Crying, Loud laughter, Gen Z Stares & The Resting Bitch Tongue

Rosie (00:00)
Hello dear listener, this is another episode that was recorded live on TikTok. So if the audio is a bit different, the format's a bit different, don't stress. We were live on TikTok having the time of our lives. By the way, we'll be doing a lot more of that. So go follow us over on TikTok. And in the meantime, enjoy this episode.

Roula (00:33)
I was watching a documentary and I noticed something. Not only in the documentary, but something we all do. When we laugh, we laugh loud, we laugh clear, we let the world see that we're laughing. And when we cry, the first thing we do, we start catching up the tears in our eyes. I'm so sorry.

Yeah, like we start hiding that we're crying and we don't want the tears to maybe ruin our makeup or whatever or make us feel weak. And I felt that such an interesting thing that we laugh loud and clear and we cry small and hiding. Wow. What are your thoughts on that? It's all conditioning. We've been trained. You know, it's it's unbecoming to.

ugly cry. Even the fact we call it ugly crying. No one says ugly laughing. I don't think I'm particularly attracted when I'm laughing my guts out. ⁓ You know? So yeah, what a load of bullshit. Why don't we cry more openly? Rosie, help me. I've never heard of ugly crying. Tell me about it. Where does it come from? No. Okay, English is not my first language, so.

No, but so this is interesting that it doesn't translate across. So you know when you're really like it's more of an uncontrollable cry and you might get a bit snotty and your eyes get puffy and you know you might be going you know making sounds they call that ugly crying. ⁓ okay.

Okay, and it's embarrassing, it makes people feel uncomfortable. and it really ticks me off when people apologize for crying. Don't apologize. Why do we do that? I've probably done it.

Yeah, I've done it too. But why do we immediately, I want to say hi, Amir, he's from Saudi Arabia. ⁓ You know, why do we, when we start crying, the first thing we do, we want to dry the tear right away. Why are we scared to let our tear rolls on our face? I don't know why I'm hanging on to this thought.

Why do you think we do that? Why do you do it?

It might sound stupid and but real for not ruining my makeup.

What if you weren't wearing makeup? Would you wipe your tears? Yeah, because lot of men also ⁓ cry, especially on this documentary, and then just hold their tears. No, I would also want to just make my tears disappear. just about makeup, is it? No. I mean, it does feel, when you let the tears, when you have lots of tears, it can feel a bit annoying. But why do we try to stop it dripping down at all?

Why? They say it's healthy times that release the stress. Yes, Barb. Yeah. After you've had a big cry, isn't it such a release? my goodness. Yeah. Sometimes I get in my car alone just to give myself a good, strong, loud cry. And then I come back home feeling great. Wow.

I feel drained after I've had a big cry. Why is that? We feel tired, yes. It's like... so much emotion. And maybe, yeah, we do hold it in a bit, don't we? We don't just cry at any time.

Yeah, it's like we want to fall asleep.

Yes, it's exhausting. But laughing is also exhausting. Don't you say, oh, stop, can't anymore. I can't take it anymore. It's so funny. You know, when you're laughing so much, it hurts. I haven't laughed at that. I don't know how long it's been since I've laughed like that. Oh, and this is something I feel bad when we don't remember anymore. When did we laugh our ass off?

We all must have moment in an episode. Rofl Rofl. Roll on the floor laughing. Yeah. my God. is saying she's thinking of joining a laughter club. I didn't know there was such a thing. Whoa. Yeah. I've seen it in the movies. A laughter club. You've seen that in the movies. Really? Yeah.

She said it's online. I wonder how it's gonna be online. are you doing in the laughter club? I'm so curious.

I think someone starts laughing and it gets contagious. So everyone is laughing. It is contagious, isn't it? And you know, when you see videos online of a baby laughing, it's such an innocent, just, ⁓ I can't help but smile and sometimes laugh when I see those videos. I yesterday had an incredible ruffle. Yeah, you did. I laughed so loud, so hard, my tears, I just couldn't take it anymore.

You know, and the reason why. OK. Yeah. So my husband and I, discovered something called the Gen Z stare. ⁓ and I'm going to do it now. Hold on.

That's like when you walk into the shops. That's what they look like. Absolutely. Okay, kids are also Gen Z, so please don't get offended. I have Gen Z children. And so we were reading about the Gen Z stare. The explanation is because of COVID and having a school online, talking with their friends online, they get used to look at the camera.

And then these emotions in their face are reduced to the minimum. And this is one of the explanation of Gen Z's stare. Even though they're not looking straight at me, I do feel they're looking through my soul. It's terrifying. I think that explanation's a load of bullshit. I'm so expressive, whether or not I'm on video or in real person. But you're millennial. You're not Gen Z.

Yeah, but you just said the reason is COVID and doing things via video bullshit. They're much younger. Yeah, but why? Why would that stop you doing facial expressions? I don't know. I think that's rubbish. Can I continue what made me laugh? Yeah, get to it. Okay, please. All right. So so what happened is that

My husband is very fascinated by the Gen Z stare and he's in general a serious guy. You know, he doesn't crack jokes out of nowhere. He has his moment. We can laugh a lot together, but he's not the guy that crack jokes all the time. And then yesterday, I don't know what happened. He started giving me the Gen Z stare and I was looking at his face like, goodness, I've never seen this man before in my life. What is this?

Every time he was doing it, it cracked me up. I couldn't stop laughing because a 45-year-old giving me a Gen Z stare, it looked hilarious.

it a bit like a resting bitch faith or is it different? Yes. yeah, probably this is the official name for it in adolescence description. bitch face

so same. We kind of, we're taking it out on Gen Z a bit, aren't I think it's even less expressive than the resting bitch face. I don't Anyone from our audition here on TikTok have, is a Gen Z or have a Gen Z in their lives? Do you relate to the Gen Z stare? Have you seen it before or never seen it before?

Yeah, definitely seen it. I feel like it probably doesn't matter what generation teenagers are great at that stare. You never heard or seen it. yeah. Okay. Did you recognize the expression? Roula, give us the Gen Z stare again. Okay, I'm doing my best guys. I'm a Gen X. Can you imagine?

So have you seen that look before, Barb? What comes to my mind is like you walk into a shop and someone at customer service or they might even look at you and there's just no acknowledgement or expression whatsoever. That's creepy. You haven't seen it. it is creepy, right? Yeah. And then you go into the shop and you walk towards the customer service.

who's having the stare and you're like, as a customer, you're like, am I bothering them? Shall I ask them a question or maybe not? but you know what? I definitely have a resting bitch face, but if someone were to come up to me.

You also have a resting bitch tongue. Tongue? Have you heard of that? No, what the hell? I'm translating this from some Arabic scenes. So explain what on earth is a resting bitch tongue. It stings. It stings? Yeah.

Like when you say something nasty. my god, I know you're gonna make me regret saying this.

You? You brought it up. You gotta help us digging my own grave. You are. Let's hear it. Give us a demonstration. No, I don't have a demonstration. No, I don't. What? No, come on. Now I want to know what it is. I'm going to Google it, aren't I? And something dodgy is going to come up. ⁓ goodness. Don't, don't. Don't Google stuff. It's terrifying.

Well, Bart and I, well, actually Chris is here too. Who else is in here? Who has ever heard of resting bitch tongue? Because I am. I invented it. You invented it? Yes. Well, tell us. I invented it. It's like when someone in a normal situation, you're talking to them and then they say something that stings And you're like, where did this come from?

What's happening? ⁓ yeah, so they like their words like cut you. They Yes. Yes. Heard a bitch face. Yeah. Chris, Chris, hang on. So Chris just came in. He's he's a regular follower. Follower. Hi Chris. So Roula was just talking about the resting bitch face and her husband who's 45. Roula's 51. So you know, old. Kidding. That Gen X's. Anyway.

Her husband is generally quite a serious person, but he decided to just keep giving her the Gen X, no Gen Z stare. So please demonstrate for Chris the Gen Z stare. Okay guys, I have to do it again. So I need to go in the moment. I'm a Gen Z now and I have to give a Gen Z stare.

Rosie (13:12)
Thank

Roula (13:13)
Have you ever seen that? You laugh, you laugh, you can't resist that laughter.

Gosh, I love, I look like an alien. An alien. Hey, Abby, you see it? Woohoo, welcome, Abby. ⁓ And Roula in vented A term resting bitch tongue. What's a better way of saying it? I feel like the translation's a bit...

It's like a... What is it in your... What language did you create it in again? From Arabic. Arabic, so how do you say it in Arabic? How they say it in Arabic, you can imagine a snake pulling the tongue out. Or any reptile. Like, you know, with their tongue just... Ah! slapping you!

Okay, forget about it. It's just no kind of go directions. don't want it to go. I like it when someone's words just like cut through you and nasty like just yeah. really in a situation where you're having a normal conversation. Yeah, because it's not like you're having an argument or anything and it's just like, like, what do you want to eat tonight? Oh, the rice you made yesterday was awful. For example, I was like, what?

So nasty. Passive aggressive. It might catch on. Resting bitch tongue. No, but it's not obvious what it means. I feel like we need a description that's a bit more...

Yeah. need, we need, okay, we've got, we're rolling with it. Chris likes it. Rest in bitch tongue. Barb reckons it's going to catch on. We might end up in the urban dictionary with an insane. Abby says she understands what it means. You understand what it means. ⁓ does the resting part fit? Maybe it's just bitch tongue. It's such a bitch tongue. But the resting, I like the description of it. gives it some kind of serenity.

Yeah. Resting bitch tongues. Yeah, I'm going to try and work that into conversation. Don't don't. You don't want to lose people around you. No, I want people who get it. This is why Abby, Chris and Barbara in my circle. ⁓

Yes. So yeah, obviously, yeah, resting because it comes out of nowhere. Exactly. It was like the dictionary definition of it. There we go. Abby could describe it. Oh, gosh, that's clear now. Your glasses. You're going to have to reposition your ring light for the next one, because it looks like you have. I don't know where to reposition it. I'm such a beginner in this. Maybe like up and down.

way up. But I have the phone in it. I